So this doesn't do me a lot of good in my quest for 50 points for 50 days. If youd've waited until after the others got modded down this would have really come in handy. Re:When they do cancel Simpsons Score: 3 , Interesting. Speculation Score: 3 , Interesting. I have no inside knowledge of FOX or other broadcasting companies, but if they function the same way that other companies that I have worked at do, then I know exactly why you see the really fantsatic shows being canned in thier prime: new blood.
Every time managment changes or restructures, there is some subconcious need from the newbies to change things around, if for no other reason than to justify thier existance. The usual route is to attack what was successful before, tear it down, and bring out the solid gold shnazzy New Thing tm that will wow everyone.
Maybe it works one time out of a hundred, but that doesn't stop people from trying to be the lucky golden boy. This is just a guess, but I'll put a tenner down that the reason why Futurama never really got the support that it should have, and why it's being dropped now, is becuase maybe a week after the pilot, the heads of that department in FOX got restructured and the pastic wrap came off a whole new lineup of fresh-faced marketing and programming execs.
They couldn't drop the Simpsons it just has TOO MUCH momentum , so they decided to carve up everything else they could touch and fill the void with the neeto ideas they had during thier training in the frat house. Re:Speculation Score: 2. I just figure the ratings have never been what they hoped. Didn't it start off airing in the slot right after the simpsons, where they liked to nurse new shows to see if they'd pick up an audience?
Trying asking my parents about the family guy sometime. Point is, just because you think a show is the greatest thing on earth, it far from guarantees that anyone else does. Besides, I always had a theory on futurama. I saw the question as less 'why did they cancel it? I figured it was Millenium Syndrome. Remember the show Millenium, by Chris Carter? I never actually watched it, and supposedly not many other people did, either.
When it was on, i always heard rumors that it was Chris Carter's 'pet project' and that fox just kept it on to keep him doing the X-Files. So maybe it was the same deal with Futurama, and fox just got sick of it. Simpsons may go soon too Score: 4 , Informative.
Yahoo News carries an interview [yahoo. My favorite quote it "Although what happens generally if we win the Emmy for best animation show is that that gives us another couple of years to run it into the ground," he said. Remember Dilbert?
There was a Dilbert cartoon on UPN that really wasn't bad. Unfortunately, being UPN and being on at an unusual time well for me anyway So I really didn't notice that it had disappeared. One night, I was inspired to check Kazaa for Dilbert and grabbed a few eps. That show was actually pretty good! I think what killed that show was not so much time slot, but rather FOX has a virtual monopoly on prime-time animated shows. Sunday nights are when I watch like a string of cartoons.
Re:Remember Dilbert? But since there are some problems with it, I doubt it would ever happen. I personally think that if the show starts before 10 it's okay. I guess that's really up to the mass audience to decide, however.
If not on Sundays, put it on after Boston Public on Monday's at 9pm. It didn't have time to get old or tired, heh. As for your other comments, I disagree, but it's not worth discussing here. A good deal of the fun with Dilbert occurs when you work in a Dilbert-like environment. If you don't work that way, I can't make Dilbert funny to you. The animated cartoon is pretty good, though. It's worth a gander if you get bored hanging around Kazaa. What I was thinking when I made the comment about the cubicle dweller is that Dilbert manages to make a comic that hits close to home pretty regularly.
If that's not happening with you, then I certainly understand you not liking it. Everybody in my office, though, finds it amusing. Heh maybe Dilbert's not funny at all, and really it's my company that's funny FOX Broadcasting has a nasty habit of cancelling good shows and keeping bad shows.
Tis a shame Re:it is a shame Second, Undeclared was not cancelled. Their first season had a short number of episodes. It's been renewed. No Futurama? Watch SeaLab! If FOX takes Futurama away from us or as recently simply decides to pre-empt or randomly move it then do yourself and your sense of humor a favor and stay up later usually about to watch Sealab on Cartoon Network's Adult Swim block. Secular Thinking Score: 2 , Insightful. Seems to me that the Simpsons has reached the point of being a minor religion As folks will quote scripture, so folks will quote the Simpsons.
It's on Sunday, and plans are made around it. Those that watch think those that don't are wierd. You can also attend throughout the week, but the sermons seem a bit canned and dated.
Why not? I'm sure someone somewhere hates the Simpsons with passion enough to start a small war, and that's all the qualification I need. Why move networks?
The devil you know is frequently better than the devil you don't. That is a really strange complaint comming from TV executives. My favourite sitcom "News Radio" was always in trouble and was cancelled because the characters were too mean to each other.
And now my favourite animation show yes i think the current futurama shows are a bit better than the current simpsons shows is getting cancelled because the characters are too mean. Thats really bizarre. First of all the characters werent really mean in either one of those show ok maybe except bender but even he was showed goodness of heart in the godfellas episode. Second of all it makes you wonder do TV stations consider it their duty to build up the morals of their audience trough tv shows?
And if so why is that coming from FOX that brought us numerous car chase shows, police reality shows, accident and disasters where people die shows, one or two was it? Re:"Too mean" Score: 2. The "too mean" comment makes me wonder which network these FOX executives think they're "running. Letter Writing Score: 5 , Informative.
Yes, it's probably true that online petitions aren't worth the server space their stored on which is why Futurama fans might want to consider writing a good old USPS letter. Rumor has it that big-wig studio execs are greatly swayed by your willingness to waste paper, time, and tax dollars. Here's their addresses at the Fox network: Ms. Pico Blvd. Los Angeles, CA United States of America I don't want to give you a script but you might want to focus on Futurama's poor and frequently changing time slot and it's abundance of critical praise.
Telling a studio exec to bite any part of your anatomy shiny or otherwise is generally a bad idea. Simpsons Post ?
Let's see: They fly someplace. Re:Simpsons Post ? To answer question FYI: Generally and this is true for a lot of shows , that while the actually production process starts 9 months before showing, that doesn't mean that everything is finished 9 months before.
Things can be spliced in almost up to the point of showing. The Bin Laden bit was probably an add-in, but either way, I sure as hell don't agree with it. It cheapens a truely "evil" person, and makes it feel like people died in vain. I sure as hell don't agree with it. Lighten up a little. If you don't like it, don't watch it. While it offends you, it may comfort others.
If you are right, and lots of people agree, then it will be removed. Otherwise, if your wrong, and people don't agree with you, you'll just cause more harm than good. Leave out of it I understand your point, but I respectfully disagree about it's humor.
I don't see the Simpsons being able to lift my spirits that way. Jokes about airport screenings may be funny, but when you put them in the terrorism context, it loses it's humor. Bin Laden in a blender is a spoof of stuff we've already seen on the net.
It's the lighter side of what happened. But to tackle the attacks directly without turning it into a drama Re:Leave out of it That south park episode was lame. I was so psyched up, expecting maybe even a guest appearance of Saddam, both of them with the canadian style heads, yapping away, mistreating Satan even I get some "not all muslims are our enemies" not that they all are, but I watch this show to be entertained, not listen to a public service announcement bullshit.
I get a script that is so far from the first 2 season's quality, that I want to cry. I get a horribly unwatchable spoof of Bugs Bunny, which is unforgiveable. I get a really really really lame new character, invented for the sake of a bad pun. Every other joke was either as bad as that, or worse. Nothing like the humor I'd expect from South Park. And the pain goes on and on.
I get cold chills, remembering how bad that episode is. But that wasn't bad enough, the entire season has been as bad, with only the occassional joke anything like they had been. I get a Kenny that stays dead. If this is what South Park has turned into, then Simpsons which I haven't watched in year or Futurama I've only seen it once or twice definitely kicks its ass. This stuff writes itself Scene one: Itchy, Scratchy and Bin Ladin in a barber shop Remember what Roswell did?
Bottles of tabasco sauce sent to the producers or something? Mailbomb them with lots of alcohol Bender likes to drink and maybe they'll notice and not cancel Futurama. They'll definitely notice it more than some stupid online petition. Whatever became of frcr. Score: 5 , Interesting. Case in point? The Simpsons Archive snpp.
Someone at work will utter a butchered version of some famous quote and in seconds we will have the exact wording, the episode it came from and with a little step 2 magic soon be watching the hilarious moment. But is there such a resource for Futurama?
Well there was The Futurama Cronicles frcr. Had much of the same kind of information, with upcoming episode dirt and all sorts of little factoids. I can't read the alien language, but those guys had it pretty much deciphered.
I always wonder what the little clips during the intro came from and they always seemed to know. But what was it, two years ago? How can a site like snpp. Throughout the show's first four seasons, Fox was reportedly very unsupportive, constantly shuffling its time slot and delaying the airing of episodes. This indifference is odd given the fact that, at the same time, The Simpsons was continuing to be a massive success for the network, claiming the title of longest-running American sitcom just as Fox ceased buying episodes of Futurama , bringing about its first demise.
As a result, the first series finale came at the end of season 4 with the semi-musical "The Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings," a song from which was nominated for an Emmy. After years of successful syndication on Adult Swim, Comedy Central revived the series by backing the creation of four new straight-to-DVD films , which are now considered to constitute season 5.
The venture was standalone, however, with no guarantee of continuation, so the last film, Into The Wild Green Yonder , served as an open-ended finale, with all of the main characters flying the Planet Express ship into an unknowable wormhole. Comedy Central eventually decided to see what was on the other side, following the films with a full sixth season. Premiering on Fox in , the adult animated television show was a huge success and continues to run even to this day.
Realizing how well-received Groening's creation was, Fox began asking for more ideas from him. Thus, the animator created Futurama , a show about a pizza delivery guy named Fry who wakes up one thousand years into the future and learns to navigate this new life through all sorts of funny antics.
Though it was Fox who elicited Groening to produce Futurama , it seemed the network was always against the show. Because of this, Futurama has a fraught history, as it was shifted around from time slot to time slot and network to network, canceled and revived, and endured many complications spread out over its ten-year run.
Futurama 's troubles began with the very first episode. The Simpsons was still both witty and money-spinning, and he could get any project he wanted greenlit — even a sci-fi comedy cartoon called Futurama. On board the Planet Express spaceship with the immature and slovenly Fry were cyclops orphan Leela, drunken robot Bender, clumsy intern Amy and incompetent alien medical lobster Dr Zoidberg: a crew of misfits seemingly designed to connect directly to the types of misfits who watch cartoon science fiction.
Present-day celebrities made cameos as preserved heads in jars, which was a lot more satisfying than how The Simpsons handled them. Unlike some shows aimed at nerds that just shouted science words and played a laugh track bazinga!
Jokes about superdupersymmetric string theory or written in binary code were included for viewers with the nerd credentials to recognise them.
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